Question for the MTCers

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I think the "competitive rate" probably has a lot to do with it. Your first two suggestions -- that people won't apply because they think they won't get in-- seems to be the most likely to me. A 4% acceptance rate is discouraging... That would also explain why the lower quality applications have fallen off more sharply. As a college senior, you don't always have as much time to devote to your job search as you would like, and this is one more long application with a big potential for disappointment.

One thing -- you might find that applications will be higher for the later deadlines-- I imagine those people who think they might not make it simply applied to first TFA deadlines. If they don't get in there, MTC might be worth a try again.
(Also, talking to the TFA recruiter at Williams -- he says that there is MUCH less interest this year on campus than last year, but I can't imagine that could be a multi-school trend...)
have you advertised mtc on online job/fellowship search sites (for example, idealist.org)??? this way, even if people attend a school where we did not specifically recruit, or if they were unable to attend an info session/career fair, they would still be able to find out about the program?? also, maybe you can check the tfa deadlines -- maybe more people will simply apply to mtc later in the year, possibly after they get turned down from tfa? could you take out ads in school newspapers to help spread the word???
That's interesting, because Dave M. said the same thing happened at the education career fair at Amherst. The people from other programs felt that there was less interest this year than in years past.

Also, I should have mentioned this in the post, the trend has always been for us to receive the greatest numbers of applications for the first deadline, less for the second, less for the third, and so on. Hopefully, that will not be the case this year.
We do advertise on idealist and other job sites.

Newspaper ads are, unfortunately, too expensive for our budget.

What else?
I'll second that a 4% acceptance rate is discouraging. I'm sure I've said this before, but I never applied because I wanted to be a part of some elitist organization and say I was one of whatever percent of my applicant pool to make it. Maybe listing the program as "the most competitive alternate-route program" but not actually showing the numbers would keep some potentials from being so discouraged, but still show that we are competitive. On the other hand, if we have 80 high-quality applicants, that sounds like less sifting through junk-mail to me. I know the focus has always been on high numbers of applicants, but that's counter-productive if a large percent of applications are going to be immediately ditched. Do we have any statistics of the number of "high-quality" apps from previous years?
Here's an email from one of our alumni:

Your theories are interesting. I will add my 2 cents here....

Some alternate theories:

1. -People who are service oriented may be looking more towards
environmental concerns (maybe)

2. - It is just a bum year, no worries.

3. - People are more concerned about money and the economy and are
looking to higher paying jobs since the economy is scary and very
unpredictable with no real promise of security... which leads me into
my next shpeal about Teach For America, which offers much of what MTC
does (I of course think MTC is better) and offers the brand name. The
stamp on the resume (much like the Williams or Amherst stamp) that
will serve the person well in their later job market.

A few things... I know you want numbers up to be competitive and to
say you are competitive, but if you have just as many qualified
applicants as last year, the program will not suffer... I guess it is
just its "competitiveness/stats" which then would make it hard to
recruit later....

More about TFA. I have a friend who works as a manager of alumni
relations there. They are the biggest non=profit in history in terms
of getting applicants - 17,000 last year, and they take people from
Fidelity and Pepsi to be in the top positions. They are recruiting
machines.

- TFA is way up this year.... hmm.... maybe you could look into
that...... first deadline 4000 apps (again info from friend who works
in alumni management there.... ) They are really marketing hard
nationally, and it could be eclipsing any competitive programs. They
are using digital media (yahoo, facebook, etc....) sort of corporate
for a non profit.

In light of this, my main reaction is that MTC should not be too much
like TFA..... in other words, you need to figure out what it is that
makes MTC distinct and be ready to answer this question in an
irrefutable way, "How is MTC different from TFA?" And it may not just
be about the Delta... the longest standing exec director in TFA is in
the Delta and the culture of the Delta is embedded deep within the TFA
program.... I really do think MTC is a better program, and we have to
be able to say distinctly and succinctly how we are different.


We also need to think about our target audience. Who do we want to
recruit? Can we redefine/narrow that? How can we distinguish from
TFA, who may very well take over the market?

I think one of the things MTC did well when we involved was recruiting
a lot from within MS and from mid career change people, although TFA
is doing more of that now... (the mid career folks I mean.)

Maybe it is not about TFA, but they are really getting out there and
taking a lot of people.

What do you think?
Shara
Elizabeth, I think you are right that the low numbers are not a problem, at least right now, because we are still receiving a good number of outstanding applications. I am concerned that, if this trend were to continue over the next few years, even that pool would decrease. Right now, I am more perplexed than concerned. Why are the overall numbers down? I can't explain it, and that makes me nervous.

And while I often say the goal of recruiting is to cast as wide a net as possible, that is not exactly accurate. The goal is really to cast as wide a net as possible among people who fit our recruiting profile: outstanding students with a commitment to service and experience working with kids. Leadership or teaching experience a plus. So we have always tried to target that audience.

Shara's email, copied in the comment above, is interesting because that indicates TFA's applications are way up.

Do we already contact athletic departments at any schools to get our name out there among student-athletes. One of the characteristics that we seem to look for are people who are ambitious, willing to adapt, and able to handle multiple responsibilities. The school districts want teachers who will wear many hats, especially coaching, which would stem from knowledge of a sport ideally. I had a job already when I was in college, but our athletic department held information sessions with specific employers, and blocks of interview time specifically for athletes. Even if we couldn't arrange info sessions, we could contact athletic departments to spread the word (email fliers that could be printed and put on bulletin boards or forwarded to the teams?)

I like Shara’s comments above. I think that MTC needs to take on TFA. MTC should be able to pull from the exact same applicant pool as TFA, and the more qualified applicants should be in MTC because of the full-scholarship for the Master’s Degree. Therefore, if TFA applications are up, we need to figure out how to make those TFA applicants also apply to MTC. And when those applicants are offered jobs in both MTC and TFA, they should always select MTC.

MTC is compared to the Peace Corps on its homepage though I do not believe that MTC and Peace Corps have too much in common besides the 2-year commitment. I feel that MTC should be compared to TFA on the homepage. The comparisons page should also be expanded to highlight more differences between MTC and TFA.

I like the TFA homepage better than the MTC homepage. After reading just the TFA Homepage, a potential applicant is presented with the challenge that they can help change education in America. The page is actively recruiting.

The MTC homepage is a great starting place to get more information on MTC, but the homepage does not actively recruit. The first text visible could be a shocking and provocative statistic about education in Mississippi and a link to our application. Other text on the page should mention the connection to Teach for America but emphasize our Master's program and other distinct differences. The picture is great, but it does not show anything about how MTC teachers are impacting education. The TFA homepage has 4 pictures of student-teacher "learning" action shots.

Another angle: Our blogs aren't accessible to the Internet surfer because of the privacy controls most of us have. I read a lot of the blogs last year before applying.....just a thought.







Thanks for the comments George. I agree with many of your points, however I don't think it is realistic to expect someone to always choose MTC over TFA as TFA has nationwide placement and someone may prefer to be in San Francisco or NYC or Hawaii than in MS.

In the past we have compared ourselves to TFA on the homepage, but I removed that because I don't see our program as in competition with TFA (nor do I see us in competition with Peace Corps, but I do like that comparison). TFA is similar to us, and certainly there is crossover amongst applicants, but I feel that there are benefits TFA offers that we don't (nationwide placement and elementary school placement) and vice-versa (small group, master's, training in-state). Someone who is interested in both should choose the program that is the best fit, rather than us beating our chests and saying, "We're better." I agree with Shara that we need to highlight the differences between the programs. What do you think?
I applied for MTC because I was not ready to move away from MS yet. My sister basically did the same. I guess you have to ask yourself how many people are willing to come to MS, a place that has been described as so desolate and bare, when the economy overall is on a downfall. If I had the choice to teach somewhere else, I probably would. I think we have to be realistic in that people are starting to look out more for themselves. It is a our job as fellow MTCers to keep people informed about the program so that it can continue to prosper. Many of you may not agree with that, but word of mouth is worth more than any website or application...LET'S NETWORK, PEOPLE!!!!
Yes, you're right...highlighting the differences is the important part...though "beating chests" would be fun, it's not the exact point....

I agree that we need to highlight the differences between TFA and MCT more convincingly. The TFA brand is powerful, but there may be quite a few more good candidates who would consider MTC a better option if they really understood the differences.

I would like to mention a key difference I see between the organizations that should not be understated: size. To the applicant, one of the not-so-subtle differences between TFA and MCT is that TFA seems to focus somewhat mechanically on undergraduate GPA (to the extent of year-by-year breakdowns to two decimal places) as its primary means of weeding through applicants, whereas MCT actually seems to read the application submission in totality. That is just one example of the size difference. MCT is a small and flexible organization. You will personally know everyone involved in the organization, from top to bottom. TFA is a large, presumably efficient machine, but probably not very personal. You will not get a phone call from the founder. You will not debate with the program manager the very goals and missions of the organization, etc. That is a pretty profound difference, and one that MTC should advertise, in my opinion.

Mr. A, I think you are right that the small size of the program is something to highlight. I appreciate the kind words. One of the values that is important to me, as Program Manager, is having an open, transparent, organization. I feel that, in the long run, this can only strengthen the organization.

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